Imagine our country with about 40,000,000 more D'Andres, L'Trayvons, QuiNishas, Ne'Shelles, Kendricks, JayMarquans, D'Shauntraviouses, Jamarqeeziuses, etc. and tell me if you want to live there.
Forty. Million. About double what it is now.
We've lost the luxury of placing morality at the forefront of these debates. It's all strictly practical now. Do we want to have our own country or not?
It's not my position. I'm merely explaining why we have been slaughtered when the tiniest abortion restriction is put to a vote of the people. I didn't expect it - I thought we'd have a patchwork of abortion restrictions in states around the country. That's not happening. States that Trump won by 15 or 20 points are passing wildly liberal pro-abortion laws. I'm merely explaining why I think that is so. The original sin is the welfare state. As long as we have a welfare state -- i.e. for eternity - we will have majorities continuing to vote for abortion. We will also have the most useless wastes of space immigrating here to get on the gravy train, but that's another topic.
Well, I'll acknowledge that it's not dinner party material, but it's an important topic we need to be realistic about. As for 'hateful language', it seems that I'm winning the 'popular vote' on that one so far - let's see how many people agree with you.
All I have to say is welfare causes crime. Cancel it holding out only the earned income credit and you’ll solve at least 50% of future prison populations.
No insults here, just a statement of fact - 40 million more of the most troublesome, problematic element in our society is a recipe for total collapse.
You are exactly right. You see it. I see it. Everybody sees it. The scolding you get is from those who who want the truth buried. They are trash as well.
"I’d rather save the kids and leave the drug addicts to their own devices, but apparently, that’s not an option in a cradle-to-grave welfare state that seems to think it’s of vital importance to keep drug addicts alive"...and apparently keep them fertile and reproducing.
Shame on me for wishing to keep more of my earnings for my own family's medical care and education.
Perhaps it is time to recoin an over-used liberal mantra...The perpetual sponges should pay their fair share!
Abortion is one of the few eugenic programs we have left in society, as more PoC are aborted then are whites. Thus, abortion is a net positive for society. Every other policy around us is strongly Dysgenic and only increases the numbers of blacks and Hispanics and other low IQ third world individuals faster and faster. Leave abortion alone! It reduces the numbers of blacks in society so leave it alone please!
That said, while abortion puts a slight slowdown in the Dysgenic decline, Dysgenics is a freight train that is not going to stop. The only thing that could stop it is an equally strong EUGENICS PROGRAM: https://childfreebc.com/candidates/ or CBC - private, voluntary, strongly EUGENIC. This appears to be picking up steam. I've donated and personally sterilized four genetic rejects. And I donate monthly, regularly. If all conservatives and whites did this, we could wipe out blacks and Hispanics from the face of the Earth.
Ann Coulter and Heather McDonald talk a lot about illegitimacy and POC, it would be amazing if they could do a video about CBC and spread the word and get them more donations. This is the only way we can save the West at this point folks.
Modern Darwin is rather direct, but his preferred plan doesn't involve "stopping a beating heart." but stopping the pregnancies of people who shouldn't be getting pregnant in the first place. Wouldn't it be better than getting pregnant over and over again and using abortion as birth control? A gynecologist I know who used to work in Brooklyn told me this weekend that he had scores of patients who'd had MORE THAN 20 ABORTIONS. One woman -- the record holder -- had had 36. We'd have a lot fewer abortions if we gave away free vasectomies , tubal ligations and norplant. (What ever happened to norplant?)
I assume by "give away" you mean taxpayer funded? Of course this would be great, but A. The Dems who now control the country would never go for it, bc all those Dysgenic babies are their future voters, and B. Free might still not be enough to entice Laquisha and Tyrone to do it. CBC addresses both those issues... it's all donor funded, and Laquisha and Tyrone get paid to get their sterilization procedures. I'll tell you what I personally fully funded Candidates there -- 3 males & 1 female -- and they got sterilized. When I was notified about that I had a sense of satisfaction that have never had donating toward politicians or commentators, as I know that my donation prevented 5-10 downstream Dysgenic babies from entering the world. The CBC donor video -- https://childfreebc.com/donors/ -- claims that every unintended child cost society $26M over it's lifetime. So I saved society $100-200M!
I'm extremely cynical that voting is gonna save us at this point. The #'s of low IQ, dysgenic voters is just too high, insuperable. Whites are only a small minority worldwide, but collectively we still control much of the private wealth. A small fraction of that donated to CBC could, in theory, sterilize almost all blacks and other PoC. And yes, dramatically reduce abortions too.
Interesting take. What exactly is so immoral about CBC? It's entirely voluntary; no one is forcing anyone to do anything. And you do realize that illegitimacy is incredibly harmful to both the mother and father? So if they want to opt out of childbirth, but don't have the money to pay for a sterilization procedure, what's wrong with someone funding that for them?
I see. So our fundamental disagreement is that you believe that blacks, hispanics, middle easterners, village Indians and Chinese etc can be "lifted up" through education, opportunities, positive environment, etc. I otoh believe that nature >>> nurture, and no matter how many trillions more we spend on that stuff, the result will be the same... they will ruin every society they are a part of.
That said, I agree with you... abortion is killing unborn babies, and I wish we didn't have to do it. But if it prevents more low IQ PoC from entering the world, I begrudgingly support it. I support CBC strongly, bc writ large, it would prevent a tremendous amount of abortion.
I applaud your idealism. And of course you are right, welfare (like all redistribution) is dysgenic. Blacks were way, way, way better off in the 50's before the Dems starting redistributing to them. Generations of handouts has destroyed the black family and black culture entirely. But they are voting Democrat, and that was the point all along... The Democrat Plantation.
I disagree with you that they can coexist in advanced society with any other races. They are meant to run and hunt and dance on the African Savannah, not to sit at desks and behind cash registers. If you took a baby lion into your home and attempted to domesticate it, things may be ok for a while. But then, one day, he bites into Grandma's neck and kills her. I would argue that that was your fault, not the lion's. You can't change evolution. Btw all the Founding Fathers, and later even Lincoln, agreed with me on this. While many saw slavery as wrong, none thought that blacks could live amongst whites as equals. Lincoln wanted to end slavery yes, but he believed in colonization, i.e. sending them all to Hispaniola.
Rather than "bring forth children to the murderer," Hosea prayed that God would give the Israelites "a miscarrying womb and dry breasts." And this was his own tribe, mind you. Those whose cultures and conduct consign their children to doom should not be forced to reproduce; and we most certainly should not shoulder the burden of these peoples.
It's only taken feminists about 50 years to destroy 2000 years of Western culture. It's a shame we can't parachute a few planeloads of them into the Middle East. Whatever the outcome, it could only be an improvement.
Here's a solution: All men must freeze their sperm and then get vasectomies. Take the woman's body out of the equation. (The GOP will never go for it. They rely on abortion issue to keep losing elections and therefore the country).
This will sound heartless but abortion now has its place considering that America has an increasing problem with a low IQ, drug addicted and crime prone segment of the population. The militant evangelicals like to believe that every baby is a blessing but some of those babies are born with criminal traits that will manifest themselves at a certain age.
The post 1965 welfare state has exploded the population of urban poor whereas before they had to limit their families to match their means.
Ann's been right on the abortion issue but strangely thinks Ron DeSantis is a shoo in for the presidency when he signed the strictest abortion law in the nation and bragged about it. The Dems would hit him between the eyes on that issue and scare undecided voters who tend to support abortion "rights". DeSantis has no chance due to his abortion stance.
I agree that the dumbest thing D ever did was sign that 6-wk abortion limit. It's not going to save babies; to the contrary, it's going to get a lot more babies killed, and in the most grotesque manner possible. The 6-week limit will be blocked by the courts, then an initiative will be put to the voters -- there's no question but that this will happen -- and the people will vote for an insanely liberal abortion amendment to be put in the state constitution forever.
On the other hand -- AS DOBBS FOUND AND NINO SCALIA TOLD US FOR 40 YEARS -- abortion is not in the constitution. It's not a federal issue. Congress has no authority to pass a law on abortion, and the president has no constitutional authority to sign such a law. (Other than on subsidiary issues, such as whether the taxpayers will be forced to pay for abortions. Currently, they cannot thanks to The Hyde Amendment). So you may hate what D did in FL on abortion, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with his presidential run.
Thanks for the reply. The problem with the average voter is that most of them don't understand the nuance you included in your second paragraph and think SCOTUS granted a constitutional right to abortion in 1973 (SCOTUS has no authority to grant rights) and that a "right wing" SCOTUS took it away when all they were doing was returning the matter back to the states to decide among their voters.
That a federal ban on abortion would get struck down even by a "right wing" SCOTUS doesn't matter. The Dems and their lying media outlets will scare ignorant voters by telling them that DeSantis will institute a nationwide ban and they will believe it. After all these are the same people who believed that Trump colluded with Russia and urinated on prostitutes and that systemic white racism prevents black people from getting advanced degrees and becoming millionaires. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.
Thank you for follow up on a civil rights issue Ann. Grew up in “control group” of potential, possible genetic versus non genetic addictive tendencies. (adopted siblings, generational drinking (‘60’s, 70’s 80’s) by parents—as well as consuming doctor prescribed maintenance meds.) No simple answers. Environment is as important if not more than heredity. Agree. In some states, the cradle to grave state is the only answer to their welfare survival. Not personal welfare either……
Comment was to JA not you. No follow-up by JA. I didn’t include you in the 40 million JA referenced. You may have included yourself. If I’m mean you are meaner for pointing it out my comment as mean. Have you no compassion? You may very well have hurt my feelings.Do you care? I forgive you this time but … My American Legion membership is based on the information in my application. I do have standing, which is based on service (Military)or service (Military) by family. I did a full review of my application myself and it is true, so help me God. Merry Christmas
How the abortion issue got so out of hand is just unbelievable to me. There was never a right to abortion and that error was corrected with Dobbs. Each state would then decide the issue without interference by the Federal government. What the hell happened? DeSantis signed a 6 week abortion bill. So what. He didn’t write the bill the state legislature wrote it. Florida therefore ruled on the issue . What the hell is wrong with that? Ohio got waylaid by a referendum proposed by the facists and it passed either by really stupid voters or by people who really love abortion and more importantly the political power it could yield. That’s it. It’s over in Ohio until maybe at some point Ohioans change it. But it’s up to Ohio. The facist left saw they lost Dobbs and simply started a new campaign of lies.They just changed the angle of attack in the march, not toward equality, or women’s rights or equal rights for women but in the march to destroy this country. The real public issue for which they stand is ‘a right’ defined by them, not murder, not the taking of an innocent life. The issue is a ‘right’. So the reasonable arguments for abortion in the case of incest, rape and life of the birthing person are cast aside. Europe has a 15 week general limit on abortion but no facist here is going to bring that as an argument are they? Death is not a defense to their ‘right’. They win again.
Imagine our country with about 40,000,000 more D'Andres, L'Trayvons, QuiNishas, Ne'Shelles, Kendricks, JayMarquans, D'Shauntraviouses, Jamarqeeziuses, etc. and tell me if you want to live there.
Forty. Million. About double what it is now.
We've lost the luxury of placing morality at the forefront of these debates. It's all strictly practical now. Do we want to have our own country or not?
In establishing their own country, God instructed the Israelites to exterminate the Canaanites.
It's not my position. I'm merely explaining why we have been slaughtered when the tiniest abortion restriction is put to a vote of the people. I didn't expect it - I thought we'd have a patchwork of abortion restrictions in states around the country. That's not happening. States that Trump won by 15 or 20 points are passing wildly liberal pro-abortion laws. I'm merely explaining why I think that is so. The original sin is the welfare state. As long as we have a welfare state -- i.e. for eternity - we will have majorities continuing to vote for abortion. We will also have the most useless wastes of space immigrating here to get on the gravy train, but that's another topic.
There's no right to take another person's life without due process of law or self defense.
Well, I'll acknowledge that it's not dinner party material, but it's an important topic we need to be realistic about. As for 'hateful language', it seems that I'm winning the 'popular vote' on that one so far - let's see how many people agree with you.
All I have to say is welfare causes crime. Cancel it holding out only the earned income credit and you’ll solve at least 50% of future prison populations.
No insults here, just a statement of fact - 40 million more of the most troublesome, problematic element in our society is a recipe for total collapse.
You are exactly right. You see it. I see it. Everybody sees it. The scolding you get is from those who who want the truth buried. They are trash as well.
You want double this every month?
https://vdare.com/articles/35-black-on-white-homicides-including-two-white-sjws-two-perps-the-same-age-as-st-emmett-till-15-october-2023-another-month-in-the-death-of-white-america
Pregnant drug addicts should be encouraged if not forced to abort. Anyone who can't see why is detached from reality.
most abortions are black, most abortions are done with a pill early in pregnancy.
Who wants to change that? Sanger wanted to stop black reproduction - so why doesn't bLM oppose abortions?
I don't smoke, drink, or gamble but they are all legally permitted .
Sterilize the low IQ, dysgenic masses: https://childfreebc.com/candidates/ - private, voluntary, strongly EUGENIC. Donate & share. Save the West.
"I’d rather save the kids and leave the drug addicts to their own devices, but apparently, that’s not an option in a cradle-to-grave welfare state that seems to think it’s of vital importance to keep drug addicts alive"...and apparently keep them fertile and reproducing.
Shame on me for wishing to keep more of my earnings for my own family's medical care and education.
Perhaps it is time to recoin an over-used liberal mantra...The perpetual sponges should pay their fair share!
Abortion is one of the few eugenic programs we have left in society, as more PoC are aborted then are whites. Thus, abortion is a net positive for society. Every other policy around us is strongly Dysgenic and only increases the numbers of blacks and Hispanics and other low IQ third world individuals faster and faster. Leave abortion alone! It reduces the numbers of blacks in society so leave it alone please!
That said, while abortion puts a slight slowdown in the Dysgenic decline, Dysgenics is a freight train that is not going to stop. The only thing that could stop it is an equally strong EUGENICS PROGRAM: https://childfreebc.com/candidates/ or CBC - private, voluntary, strongly EUGENIC. This appears to be picking up steam. I've donated and personally sterilized four genetic rejects. And I donate monthly, regularly. If all conservatives and whites did this, we could wipe out blacks and Hispanics from the face of the Earth.
Ann Coulter and Heather McDonald talk a lot about illegitimacy and POC, it would be amazing if they could do a video about CBC and spread the word and get them more donations. This is the only way we can save the West at this point folks.
Modern Darwin is rather direct, but his preferred plan doesn't involve "stopping a beating heart." but stopping the pregnancies of people who shouldn't be getting pregnant in the first place. Wouldn't it be better than getting pregnant over and over again and using abortion as birth control? A gynecologist I know who used to work in Brooklyn told me this weekend that he had scores of patients who'd had MORE THAN 20 ABORTIONS. One woman -- the record holder -- had had 36. We'd have a lot fewer abortions if we gave away free vasectomies , tubal ligations and norplant. (What ever happened to norplant?)
I assume by "give away" you mean taxpayer funded? Of course this would be great, but A. The Dems who now control the country would never go for it, bc all those Dysgenic babies are their future voters, and B. Free might still not be enough to entice Laquisha and Tyrone to do it. CBC addresses both those issues... it's all donor funded, and Laquisha and Tyrone get paid to get their sterilization procedures. I'll tell you what I personally fully funded Candidates there -- 3 males & 1 female -- and they got sterilized. When I was notified about that I had a sense of satisfaction that have never had donating toward politicians or commentators, as I know that my donation prevented 5-10 downstream Dysgenic babies from entering the world. The CBC donor video -- https://childfreebc.com/donors/ -- claims that every unintended child cost society $26M over it's lifetime. So I saved society $100-200M!
I'm extremely cynical that voting is gonna save us at this point. The #'s of low IQ, dysgenic voters is just too high, insuperable. Whites are only a small minority worldwide, but collectively we still control much of the private wealth. A small fraction of that donated to CBC could, in theory, sterilize almost all blacks and other PoC. And yes, dramatically reduce abortions too.
Interesting take. What exactly is so immoral about CBC? It's entirely voluntary; no one is forcing anyone to do anything. And you do realize that illegitimacy is incredibly harmful to both the mother and father? So if they want to opt out of childbirth, but don't have the money to pay for a sterilization procedure, what's wrong with someone funding that for them?
I see. So our fundamental disagreement is that you believe that blacks, hispanics, middle easterners, village Indians and Chinese etc can be "lifted up" through education, opportunities, positive environment, etc. I otoh believe that nature >>> nurture, and no matter how many trillions more we spend on that stuff, the result will be the same... they will ruin every society they are a part of.
That said, I agree with you... abortion is killing unborn babies, and I wish we didn't have to do it. But if it prevents more low IQ PoC from entering the world, I begrudgingly support it. I support CBC strongly, bc writ large, it would prevent a tremendous amount of abortion.
I applaud your idealism. And of course you are right, welfare (like all redistribution) is dysgenic. Blacks were way, way, way better off in the 50's before the Dems starting redistributing to them. Generations of handouts has destroyed the black family and black culture entirely. But they are voting Democrat, and that was the point all along... The Democrat Plantation.
I disagree with you that they can coexist in advanced society with any other races. They are meant to run and hunt and dance on the African Savannah, not to sit at desks and behind cash registers. If you took a baby lion into your home and attempted to domesticate it, things may be ok for a while. But then, one day, he bites into Grandma's neck and kills her. I would argue that that was your fault, not the lion's. You can't change evolution. Btw all the Founding Fathers, and later even Lincoln, agreed with me on this. While many saw slavery as wrong, none thought that blacks could live amongst whites as equals. Lincoln wanted to end slavery yes, but he believed in colonization, i.e. sending them all to Hispaniola.
Rather than "bring forth children to the murderer," Hosea prayed that God would give the Israelites "a miscarrying womb and dry breasts." And this was his own tribe, mind you. Those whose cultures and conduct consign their children to doom should not be forced to reproduce; and we most certainly should not shoulder the burden of these peoples.
Apparenty, the sins of the parents are also visited on the tax-paying, law-abiding populace.
This. THIS. Sterilize the low IQ, dysgenic masses: https://childfreebc.com/candidates/ - private, voluntary, strongly EUGENIC. Donate & share.
The West committing suicide ‘while you wait’. From the Individual to the top levels of the Nation State, by all appearances.
It's only taken feminists about 50 years to destroy 2000 years of Western culture. It's a shame we can't parachute a few planeloads of them into the Middle East. Whatever the outcome, it could only be an improvement.
As suggestible as they are, they’d become suicide bombers
All of that is good, except the voting part.
Errr, they are worse doctors too. Unduly influenced by "feelz".
The suffragists weren’t feminists.
Here's a solution: All men must freeze their sperm and then get vasectomies. Take the woman's body out of the equation. (The GOP will never go for it. They rely on abortion issue to keep losing elections and therefore the country).
This will sound heartless but abortion now has its place considering that America has an increasing problem with a low IQ, drug addicted and crime prone segment of the population. The militant evangelicals like to believe that every baby is a blessing but some of those babies are born with criminal traits that will manifest themselves at a certain age.
The post 1965 welfare state has exploded the population of urban poor whereas before they had to limit their families to match their means.
Ann's been right on the abortion issue but strangely thinks Ron DeSantis is a shoo in for the presidency when he signed the strictest abortion law in the nation and bragged about it. The Dems would hit him between the eyes on that issue and scare undecided voters who tend to support abortion "rights". DeSantis has no chance due to his abortion stance.
I agree that the dumbest thing D ever did was sign that 6-wk abortion limit. It's not going to save babies; to the contrary, it's going to get a lot more babies killed, and in the most grotesque manner possible. The 6-week limit will be blocked by the courts, then an initiative will be put to the voters -- there's no question but that this will happen -- and the people will vote for an insanely liberal abortion amendment to be put in the state constitution forever.
On the other hand -- AS DOBBS FOUND AND NINO SCALIA TOLD US FOR 40 YEARS -- abortion is not in the constitution. It's not a federal issue. Congress has no authority to pass a law on abortion, and the president has no constitutional authority to sign such a law. (Other than on subsidiary issues, such as whether the taxpayers will be forced to pay for abortions. Currently, they cannot thanks to The Hyde Amendment). So you may hate what D did in FL on abortion, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with his presidential run.
Thanks for the reply. The problem with the average voter is that most of them don't understand the nuance you included in your second paragraph and think SCOTUS granted a constitutional right to abortion in 1973 (SCOTUS has no authority to grant rights) and that a "right wing" SCOTUS took it away when all they were doing was returning the matter back to the states to decide among their voters.
That a federal ban on abortion would get struck down even by a "right wing" SCOTUS doesn't matter. The Dems and their lying media outlets will scare ignorant voters by telling them that DeSantis will institute a nationwide ban and they will believe it. After all these are the same people who believed that Trump colluded with Russia and urinated on prostitutes and that systemic white racism prevents black people from getting advanced degrees and becoming millionaires. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.
I pray the babe was free of birth defects caused by her mothers willful addiction to substances that have an 80% addition rate.
Thank you for follow up on a civil rights issue Ann. Grew up in “control group” of potential, possible genetic versus non genetic addictive tendencies. (adopted siblings, generational drinking (‘60’s, 70’s 80’s) by parents—as well as consuming doctor prescribed maintenance meds.) No simple answers. Environment is as important if not more than heredity. Agree. In some states, the cradle to grave state is the only answer to their welfare survival. Not personal welfare either……
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsOmizjm0Xw
Comment was to JA not you. No follow-up by JA. I didn’t include you in the 40 million JA referenced. You may have included yourself. If I’m mean you are meaner for pointing it out my comment as mean. Have you no compassion? You may very well have hurt my feelings.Do you care? I forgive you this time but … My American Legion membership is based on the information in my application. I do have standing, which is based on service (Military)or service (Military) by family. I did a full review of my application myself and it is true, so help me God. Merry Christmas
How the abortion issue got so out of hand is just unbelievable to me. There was never a right to abortion and that error was corrected with Dobbs. Each state would then decide the issue without interference by the Federal government. What the hell happened? DeSantis signed a 6 week abortion bill. So what. He didn’t write the bill the state legislature wrote it. Florida therefore ruled on the issue . What the hell is wrong with that? Ohio got waylaid by a referendum proposed by the facists and it passed either by really stupid voters or by people who really love abortion and more importantly the political power it could yield. That’s it. It’s over in Ohio until maybe at some point Ohioans change it. But it’s up to Ohio. The facist left saw they lost Dobbs and simply started a new campaign of lies.They just changed the angle of attack in the march, not toward equality, or women’s rights or equal rights for women but in the march to destroy this country. The real public issue for which they stand is ‘a right’ defined by them, not murder, not the taking of an innocent life. The issue is a ‘right’. So the reasonable arguments for abortion in the case of incest, rape and life of the birthing person are cast aside. Europe has a 15 week general limit on abortion but no facist here is going to bring that as an argument are they? Death is not a defense to their ‘right’. They win again.