This was a case I closely followed and it was difficult to defend the men because when one questioned some issues (the ever changing story in a charged political environment where the DA was trying to keep his office, seemingly no matter what) the common retort was to be called a sexist and racist.
I never blamed Mangum. She was a troubled woman whose story was incredibly questionable.
Those to blame were the media (especially Nancy Grace), Nifong who absolutely knew better but tried to railroad men he knew were innocent, and most wretchedly in my opinion, Duke Faculty who ginned the campus up so badly it was actually physically dangerous for the players in general and specifically the men falsely accused of the rape.
Legal scholars at Duke wanted no due process for those men. They incited a mob at that campus.
Those professors should have been fired immediately.
And Nancy Grace would not even apologize for her slander. She had some minion do it for her.
This was, at that time, a low point for American academia and media. They’ve since stopped even lower, somehow.
It is stuff like Duke Lacrosse that made Trump a viable candidate for the GOP. The GOP learned, again, that facts don’t matter and being decent to people like Nifong and Grace and Duke Academics was a losing game.
So they elected a human hand grenade that would blow it all up because nothing else worked. May as well make the libs cry and call that winning.
Whether that’s the moral of the story or not does not change the fact that many whites have gotten more insular as a response to the lies that are allowed.
Take Ferguson. Brown’s accomplice Dorian Johnson was a known and verifiable liar who’d gotten into trouble for lying to the police previously.
Yet the media uncritically repeated and amplified “hands up, don’t shoot” into a movement that burned down cities and ushered in an era of lesser policing and people choosing another vocation rather than police work, lessening the talent pool, which further demoralizes the force, rinse and repeat until we’re now accepting neck tattoos on cops.
Later AG Holder was forced to admit that Brown did not perform the hands up, don’t shoot charade. No, Brown actually did grab for a cops gun while the cop was in the car.
Businesses were destroyed predicated on an easily dismissed lie from a criminal who’d also been seen involved in a strong arm robbery.
It is as if there are members of the media, academia and govt who actively seek the destruction of the US.
Look at what lays in their wake. Why, the media will even target silent children being pestered by a degenerate Indian banging a drum in their faces while black Hebrew Israelites scream slurs at children. But somehow the children were the ones in the wrong.
Because one was wearing a red hat and would not bow to the elderly grifter and do a land statement and self immolate for his participation in the oppression of this old man whose been on the white man’s govt handouts for decades.
How did we get to this world where accusations don't need any evidence to be believed? Any woman can accuse some man of a crime, even twenty years past, and the lawmen jump into action. It's like the Salem witch trials.
I bet the Duke lacrosse team doesn't have a statue named after them the way the Central Park Five do near the scene of the crime called the Gate of the Exonerated. As they say at The New York Times, "Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story."
Those boys…men now had their lives destroyed , but hey she said she was really sorry. If possible prosecute her. As far as the DA goes ….another reason I hate elected DAs and judges.
There are no cross checks on DA actions. Kamala's comments about her "power" to falsely accuse and then drop the charges are exactly why they are needed.
I'm sure there are still administrators and faculty members at Duke who were loud and proud with their condemnations at the time or, at a minimum, silent while others lined up for the cameras. I look forward to their apologies on the first of Never.
What's the world coming to these days? I swear, it's reaching a point where a lowlife scum can't even make false allegations against innocent people & get away with it anymore...
Copper should have indicted Magnum for false statements, perjury and obstruction but failed to, so there were no consequences for that. Still, (1) Cooper is a Democrat, so you have to give him a degree of credit, and (2) Magnum 'fessed up from jail, where she sits for having murdered her last boyfriend.
I wish she could be charged for this. She destroyed these men lives with this serious allegation. All of these race-hustlers and people of their school that supposedly had these guys back should apologize publicly for speaking on the case waiting on the facts.
One of the accused had left the party to meet his girlfriend, and he even had an ATM receipt showing he was gone at the exact time Crystal claimed she was attacked. That evidence was not shown to the Grand Jury (though it is rare for DA going for an indictment to share defense evidence).
But Mike Nifong, the Duke faculty, Selena Roberts and everyone else on the left so WANTED it to be true.
Duke should have renamed after the three lacrosse players, given what they were put through by people caring nothing for the presumption of innocence--or even facts that were staring them in the face.
I recall Ann writing about this at the time. The accuser should receive the same punishment as the players would have received if found guilty.
So should everyone involved that knew, including reporters or editors or owners.
This was a case I closely followed and it was difficult to defend the men because when one questioned some issues (the ever changing story in a charged political environment where the DA was trying to keep his office, seemingly no matter what) the common retort was to be called a sexist and racist.
I never blamed Mangum. She was a troubled woman whose story was incredibly questionable.
Those to blame were the media (especially Nancy Grace), Nifong who absolutely knew better but tried to railroad men he knew were innocent, and most wretchedly in my opinion, Duke Faculty who ginned the campus up so badly it was actually physically dangerous for the players in general and specifically the men falsely accused of the rape.
Legal scholars at Duke wanted no due process for those men. They incited a mob at that campus.
Those professors should have been fired immediately.
And Nancy Grace would not even apologize for her slander. She had some minion do it for her.
This was, at that time, a low point for American academia and media. They’ve since stopped even lower, somehow.
It is stuff like Duke Lacrosse that made Trump a viable candidate for the GOP. The GOP learned, again, that facts don’t matter and being decent to people like Nifong and Grace and Duke Academics was a losing game.
So they elected a human hand grenade that would blow it all up because nothing else worked. May as well make the libs cry and call that winning.
Good job, liberals.
The only moral of personal conduct I could glean from this story is that a white person should avoid the company of blacks wherever possible.
Whether that’s the moral of the story or not does not change the fact that many whites have gotten more insular as a response to the lies that are allowed.
Take Ferguson. Brown’s accomplice Dorian Johnson was a known and verifiable liar who’d gotten into trouble for lying to the police previously.
Yet the media uncritically repeated and amplified “hands up, don’t shoot” into a movement that burned down cities and ushered in an era of lesser policing and people choosing another vocation rather than police work, lessening the talent pool, which further demoralizes the force, rinse and repeat until we’re now accepting neck tattoos on cops.
Later AG Holder was forced to admit that Brown did not perform the hands up, don’t shoot charade. No, Brown actually did grab for a cops gun while the cop was in the car.
Businesses were destroyed predicated on an easily dismissed lie from a criminal who’d also been seen involved in a strong arm robbery.
It is as if there are members of the media, academia and govt who actively seek the destruction of the US.
Look at what lays in their wake. Why, the media will even target silent children being pestered by a degenerate Indian banging a drum in their faces while black Hebrew Israelites scream slurs at children. But somehow the children were the ones in the wrong.
Because one was wearing a red hat and would not bow to the elderly grifter and do a land statement and self immolate for his participation in the oppression of this old man whose been on the white man’s govt handouts for decades.
Yes, that's my rule as well.
How did we get to this world where accusations don't need any evidence to be believed? Any woman can accuse some man of a crime, even twenty years past, and the lawmen jump into action. It's like the Salem witch trials.
E. Jean Carroll.
And Trump’s sexual assault case
I bet the Duke lacrosse team doesn't have a statue named after them the way the Central Park Five do near the scene of the crime called the Gate of the Exonerated. As they say at The New York Times, "Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story."
This!
Those boys…men now had their lives destroyed , but hey she said she was really sorry. If possible prosecute her. As far as the DA goes ….another reason I hate elected DAs and judges.
There are no cross checks on DA actions. Kamala's comments about her "power" to falsely accuse and then drop the charges are exactly why they are needed.
I'm wondering if the NYT did a front page (or any page) retraction on it's biased reporting along with an apology to the accused?
lol no
As if
from now on, whenever we refer to "trumped up charges", we should capitalize the "T".
it doesn't even matter what we might think of the man. it's a direct reference to what Democrats have done.
-- edited to correct the typo
I'm sure there are still administrators and faculty members at Duke who were loud and proud with their condemnations at the time or, at a minimum, silent while others lined up for the cameras. I look forward to their apologies on the first of Never.
What's the world coming to these days? I swear, it's reaching a point where a lowlife scum can't even make false allegations against innocent people & get away with it anymore...
Copper should have indicted Magnum for false statements, perjury and obstruction but failed to, so there were no consequences for that. Still, (1) Cooper is a Democrat, so you have to give him a degree of credit, and (2) Magnum 'fessed up from jail, where she sits for having murdered her last boyfriend.
I wish she could be charged for this. She destroyed these men lives with this serious allegation. All of these race-hustlers and people of their school that supposedly had these guys back should apologize publicly for speaking on the case waiting on the facts.
One of the accused had left the party to meet his girlfriend, and he even had an ATM receipt showing he was gone at the exact time Crystal claimed she was attacked. That evidence was not shown to the Grand Jury (though it is rare for DA going for an indictment to share defense evidence).
can and did the boys sue anyone involved in the case? especially now that Magnum has confessed?
sue her, the school, the media?
Yes!! Been waiting for this one, Ann!!
But Mike Nifong, the Duke faculty, Selena Roberts and everyone else on the left so WANTED it to be true.
Duke should have renamed after the three lacrosse players, given what they were put through by people caring nothing for the presumption of innocence--or even facts that were staring them in the face.