I'm seeing a lot of conservatives in the mold of Matt Walsh complaining tonight that "we" need to "change our approach" to abortion. (We, meaning Republicans in or running for office, evidently.) Yes, "we" should change it by replacing the abortion issue entirely with popular issues like crime and immigration, and focus on them with the same zeal and passion.
Rather than trying to convince people abortion is wrong, Republicans have been acting like Democrats, and demanding that their moral view should become law. The result is that they neither get the restrictions on abortion they want OR the ability to be elected. This is really foolish!
How ironic that Ann Coulter is one of the few pro-life advocates who realizes that, noble as it might be, its an electoral loser. She also realizes that our country needs a republican president and preferably control of Congress to reverse the Biden debacle. She was used to be called common sense
It's definition of madness, pushing the same thing hoping for different result. Abortion proved itself to be a losing issue, yet republicans continue to push for abortions. This is how we just lost Virginian legislature, because GOP governor Youngkin made 15-week abortion ban a cornerstone of his campaign.
Did he point out that that's the same law they have in ultra reactionary (not) Netherlands? Not that it would have made any difference, but it might have been briefly amusing. Single women just hear "abortion ban" and go insane. I wonder what Youngkin thought he had to gain by bringing up abortion. As an alternative how about "Stop the American Taliban, Defend the Statues." That would have been more popular.
Youngkin got elected on his promise to stop CRT indoctrination at schools. Perhaps he should stick to it and not chase after diminishing Pro-Life vote that's already in his pocket. Besides standing up to CRT, Youngkin should also ran on returning the same rigorous curriculum standards we used to have before Democrats watered it down in order to accommodate Black students. Bringing back quality education could be a driving issue not only for Christian Conservatives and otherwise liberal soccer-moms, but for the Asian voters as well. Instead Youngkin preferred to pay lip service to pro-lifers which Democrats used to their advantage.
I'm getting sick and tired of the Evangelicals pushing for abortion bans everywhere. They will doom the entire GOP to irrelevancy if they keep this crap up. Yes, as Ann said it's time for them to win hearts and minds first just like the other side used propaganda to win hearts and minds on abortion and gun control measures. Then they can try to push restrictions and bans but they're currently putting the cart before the horse.
The GOP probably would have done much better in Virginia and nationwide had they adopted a more moderate tone on abortion or completely left the matter alone.
“...win hearts and minds on abortion and gun control measures then they can push restrictions and bans.”
Or maybe just win hearts and minds and then run this Republic according to the Constitution and only ban things that are unconstitutional...unlike the totalitarian democrats.
But remember the case from Mississippi that brought this to the SCOTUS was about pre-birth abortion. Should have left it as Roe V Wade and not played the game.
Mom was a diehard old school Republican who loved Reagan. When I was in junior college I asked for her opinion. It was a woman’s right to choose was her reply. Quite a Libertarian she was. There you go.
Tell it like it is, it is a woman's right to kill her baby. Or is it? Lev 18:27 (for the inhabitants of the land, who were before you, committed all of these abominations, and the land became defiled);28 otherwise the land will vomit you out for defiling it, as it vomited out the nation that was before you." Open border, exploding Muslim population. What else would you call it?
why don't Republicans propose limits on abortion like Dems limit gun rights? Waiting periods, no high capacity abortions, ie, after the first one, the broad pays for it, no bumpstock abortions, ie, you have a one nighter and get knocked up, you're on your own because one nighters turn sex into automatic sex....
and has been argued by Dems, no Rights are unlimited.
Republicans have to get better at sarcasm and ridicule and using Alinsky's rule of getting the opposition to live up to their own policies.
FOR EXAMPLE.... !!! Republicans need to put forth a Bill that states ALL health care facilities must be disconnected from fossil fuel powered electricity and be 100% reliant upon wind and solar. Won't it be fun to hear from the environmentalist whackos that health care is far too important to be left to the vagaries of the weather?
WTF...the liberal wackos have the same relative morals as Hamas leadership...they both want regular people to be miserable and fund their lifestyles on private jets and in luxury resorts...just like the Black Sea dachas (luxurious beach houses) belonging to the members of the Soviet Politburo while their “comrade” subjects lived between bread lines and 6 families in a 2 bedroom apartment.
I can't understand people who are anti-abortion on moral grounds but don't realize that it's also a political position. Democracy means tradeoffs and compromises among people who do not agree. That's what overturning Roe meant. Dobbs was not the anti-Roe. Dobbs took abortion out of the Constitution, it didn't make abortion illegal.
America is a long, long way away from the kind of society the anti-abortion crowd wants to force us to be. The way this works is that abortion is now a question for the people to decide. That's where the battle is, and some people don't care about winning, all they care about is signalling their own moral purity.
Maybe some supposed conservatives really don’t care about the Constitution and, thus, the opposite poles are in the same bed wearing different jammies.
I love Ann Coulter's last line: "Refusing to acknowledge election results is not a good way to go through life." The voters have spoken. The GOP has to wise up!
No true Libertarian can be “pro life”. You must choose between hatred of government control and freedom from absurd restrictions. Anti-abortion legislation is exactly the sort of restriction that libertarians should loathe. As for sanctity of life: whatever happened to the sanctity of a woman’s future life with an unwanted child forced upon her by some deranged evangelical type?
I just wish America gun owners and second amendment advocates cared about the 2A as much as abortion advocates care about abortion and showed up en masse to vote like pro-abortionists do. If they did I wouldn't worry about elections.
The problem is a degenerate, decadent, anti-Christian people. We have a long way to go to rebuild a decent culture that believes in human dignity (only possible through a Christian worldview). Only after that job is done is there any hope that people will realize that killing your own offspring (and allowing its wide practice) is just evil. We could make a nice start in that direction by sharply restricting immigration and fighting crime.
Saw the New York Times headlines: "Vatican Says Transgender People Can Be Baptized and Become Godparents
A document approved by Pope Francis lays out nuanced guidance in keeping with his vision of a more inclusive church, but it does not amount to a policy change in the church, the Vatican says."
Look at the Virginia House of Delegates race where the wannabe porno narcissist, soulless Susanna Gibson, “narrowly” lost in spite of her centerpiece media thrust… she performed more than a dozen posted-live sex romps with her husband for tips . Just a few years ago she would have been laughed off the stage.
The message is that prescribed PC dogma has taken root as the new moral code for the masses...even if only by coercion.
Conservatives have been so exercised over the abortion battle, they have lost the war for the soul of the country. To win it back is a hard slog from the bottom-up.
Those pesky little municipal elections mean a great deal. That is where the educational and zoning (neighborhood) home-rule decisions originate and that is where liberals have been usurping power from for decades in their quest to centralize governance in the remaking of America. They have destroyed education, destroyed morals and are deep in the process of destroying neighborhood/community. That is where the dumbing down of America begins. By the time a student gets to college, the raw material of a useful idiot has already been created at the public school level.
Nothing is more important than what either happens or is slipped through at the local level.
That is why Margaret Sanger - Planned Parenthood inventor wanted these clinics in black neighborhoods. It was part of the insanity of "eugenics" to rid humanity of the "undesirables".
I'm seeing a lot of conservatives in the mold of Matt Walsh complaining tonight that "we" need to "change our approach" to abortion. (We, meaning Republicans in or running for office, evidently.) Yes, "we" should change it by replacing the abortion issue entirely with popular issues like crime and immigration, and focus on them with the same zeal and passion.
Matt Walsh believes that, like socialism, the pro-life argument hasn’t failed everywhere; it just hasn’t been correctly tried yet.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!
Rather than trying to convince people abortion is wrong, Republicans have been acting like Democrats, and demanding that their moral view should become law. The result is that they neither get the restrictions on abortion they want OR the ability to be elected. This is really foolish!
Kirk Lindvig
How ironic that Ann Coulter is one of the few pro-life advocates who realizes that, noble as it might be, its an electoral loser. She also realizes that our country needs a republican president and preferably control of Congress to reverse the Biden debacle. She was used to be called common sense
Our female fertility rate is below replacement levels.
The Dechurching of America is an ongoing fact of the Great Falling Away from Christianity.
Followers of Mohammed are producing baby factory records across the West.
Personal peace and affluence in our time is being traded for the death of our culture.
It's definition of madness, pushing the same thing hoping for different result. Abortion proved itself to be a losing issue, yet republicans continue to push for abortions. This is how we just lost Virginian legislature, because GOP governor Youngkin made 15-week abortion ban a cornerstone of his campaign.
Did he point out that that's the same law they have in ultra reactionary (not) Netherlands? Not that it would have made any difference, but it might have been briefly amusing. Single women just hear "abortion ban" and go insane. I wonder what Youngkin thought he had to gain by bringing up abortion. As an alternative how about "Stop the American Taliban, Defend the Statues." That would have been more popular.
Youngkin got elected on his promise to stop CRT indoctrination at schools. Perhaps he should stick to it and not chase after diminishing Pro-Life vote that's already in his pocket. Besides standing up to CRT, Youngkin should also ran on returning the same rigorous curriculum standards we used to have before Democrats watered it down in order to accommodate Black students. Bringing back quality education could be a driving issue not only for Christian Conservatives and otherwise liberal soccer-moms, but for the Asian voters as well. Instead Youngkin preferred to pay lip service to pro-lifers which Democrats used to their advantage.
I'm getting sick and tired of the Evangelicals pushing for abortion bans everywhere. They will doom the entire GOP to irrelevancy if they keep this crap up. Yes, as Ann said it's time for them to win hearts and minds first just like the other side used propaganda to win hearts and minds on abortion and gun control measures. Then they can try to push restrictions and bans but they're currently putting the cart before the horse.
The GOP probably would have done much better in Virginia and nationwide had they adopted a more moderate tone on abortion or completely left the matter alone.
Completely left the matter alone
“...win hearts and minds on abortion and gun control measures then they can push restrictions and bans.”
Or maybe just win hearts and minds and then run this Republic according to the Constitution and only ban things that are unconstitutional...unlike the totalitarian democrats.
But remember the case from Mississippi that brought this to the SCOTUS was about pre-birth abortion. Should have left it as Roe V Wade and not played the game.
Mom was a diehard old school Republican who loved Reagan. When I was in junior college I asked for her opinion. It was a woman’s right to choose was her reply. Quite a Libertarian she was. There you go.
Tell it like it is, it is a woman's right to kill her baby. Or is it? Lev 18:27 (for the inhabitants of the land, who were before you, committed all of these abominations, and the land became defiled);28 otherwise the land will vomit you out for defiling it, as it vomited out the nation that was before you." Open border, exploding Muslim population. What else would you call it?
why don't Republicans propose limits on abortion like Dems limit gun rights? Waiting periods, no high capacity abortions, ie, after the first one, the broad pays for it, no bumpstock abortions, ie, you have a one nighter and get knocked up, you're on your own because one nighters turn sex into automatic sex....
and has been argued by Dems, no Rights are unlimited.
Republicans have to get better at sarcasm and ridicule and using Alinsky's rule of getting the opposition to live up to their own policies.
FOR EXAMPLE.... !!! Republicans need to put forth a Bill that states ALL health care facilities must be disconnected from fossil fuel powered electricity and be 100% reliant upon wind and solar. Won't it be fun to hear from the environmentalist whackos that health care is far too important to be left to the vagaries of the weather?
WTF...the liberal wackos have the same relative morals as Hamas leadership...they both want regular people to be miserable and fund their lifestyles on private jets and in luxury resorts...just like the Black Sea dachas (luxurious beach houses) belonging to the members of the Soviet Politburo while their “comrade” subjects lived between bread lines and 6 families in a 2 bedroom apartment.
Well said.
I can't understand people who are anti-abortion on moral grounds but don't realize that it's also a political position. Democracy means tradeoffs and compromises among people who do not agree. That's what overturning Roe meant. Dobbs was not the anti-Roe. Dobbs took abortion out of the Constitution, it didn't make abortion illegal.
America is a long, long way away from the kind of society the anti-abortion crowd wants to force us to be. The way this works is that abortion is now a question for the people to decide. That's where the battle is, and some people don't care about winning, all they care about is signalling their own moral purity.
Maybe some supposed conservatives really don’t care about the Constitution and, thus, the opposite poles are in the same bed wearing different jammies.
I love Ann Coulter's last line: "Refusing to acknowledge election results is not a good way to go through life." The voters have spoken. The GOP has to wise up!
No true Libertarian can be “pro life”. You must choose between hatred of government control and freedom from absurd restrictions. Anti-abortion legislation is exactly the sort of restriction that libertarians should loathe. As for sanctity of life: whatever happened to the sanctity of a woman’s future life with an unwanted child forced upon her by some deranged evangelical type?
I just wish America gun owners and second amendment advocates cared about the 2A as much as abortion advocates care about abortion and showed up en masse to vote like pro-abortionists do. If they did I wouldn't worry about elections.
Now we know why women were not allowed to vote I suppose.
The problem is a degenerate, decadent, anti-Christian people. We have a long way to go to rebuild a decent culture that believes in human dignity (only possible through a Christian worldview). Only after that job is done is there any hope that people will realize that killing your own offspring (and allowing its wide practice) is just evil. We could make a nice start in that direction by sharply restricting immigration and fighting crime.
Saw the New York Times headlines: "Vatican Says Transgender People Can Be Baptized and Become Godparents
A document approved by Pope Francis lays out nuanced guidance in keeping with his vision of a more inclusive church, but it does not amount to a policy change in the church, the Vatican says."
Unbelieveable!
Look at the Virginia House of Delegates race where the wannabe porno narcissist, soulless Susanna Gibson, “narrowly” lost in spite of her centerpiece media thrust… she performed more than a dozen posted-live sex romps with her husband for tips . Just a few years ago she would have been laughed off the stage.
The message is that prescribed PC dogma has taken root as the new moral code for the masses...even if only by coercion.
Conservatives have been so exercised over the abortion battle, they have lost the war for the soul of the country. To win it back is a hard slog from the bottom-up.
Those pesky little municipal elections mean a great deal. That is where the educational and zoning (neighborhood) home-rule decisions originate and that is where liberals have been usurping power from for decades in their quest to centralize governance in the remaking of America. They have destroyed education, destroyed morals and are deep in the process of destroying neighborhood/community. That is where the dumbing down of America begins. By the time a student gets to college, the raw material of a useful idiot has already been created at the public school level.
Nothing is more important than what either happens or is slipped through at the local level.
I think that the voters know that on a proportional basis, most aborted kids are black.
That is why Margaret Sanger - Planned Parenthood inventor wanted these clinics in black neighborhoods. It was part of the insanity of "eugenics" to rid humanity of the "undesirables".