I say just pull all the Federal funding at let them figure it out for themselves. Where in the U.S. Constitution does it say anything about funding higher education? We are 36 Trillion in the hole and Harvard is sitting on 50 Billion endowment cash. Let the alumni like Adam Schiff and Obama give a donation to indoctrinate the ignorant socialist. A degree from these places aren't worth the paper they're written on. Let the free market of ideas and worth of a degree be decided by those that PAY for the degree and not subsidized by the 60% without a degree. Just get out of the way and LET THEM FAIL !!! It is fun reading Ann and Taibbi scorch the Gray Lady and put her in her place. Winning !! Thanks Ann.
You are singing my song! If Hillsdale College can survive with ZERO federal dollars surely Columbus, Brown, Princeton, Harvard, state universities & colleges can survive also. If not ….so be it. (same for Planned “un”Parenthood, NPR, PBS, etc.
YOU JUST CAN'T BRING YOURSELVES TO MENTION WHITE PEOPLE, CAN YOU NYT?
Yes, Ann, they couldn’t.
Just like all those so-called conservatives who spent years moaning about how university affirmative action admissions policies were creating “Mismatch” that really hurt BLACKS.
And just like the conservatives who brought the suit against Harvard because the university was short-changing ASIANS in admissions.
There are a lot of people who still can’t stand up for Whites — especially among Whites themselves.
Don't forget "gap year" students! So-called gap year students typically wait a year before entering college that way their test scores are not included in the entry class which likely will bring down the overall averages. Malia Obama entered Harvard College after a gap year.
I think that would be fair. What is not discussed is the ability to use economic disparities. I see no issues with providing compensation and free college to those from poor families. This will skew black but, more importantly, help the poor. And it is not racism. Why the libs never pushed for helping poor people and opted, instead, of being racist was and is so stupid.
More than 50% of Harvard graduate students are Jewish. This may help to explain how the Biden Regime ended up with so many Jewish Harvard graduates in the cabinet and other powerful, highly paid government posts.
The idea that any University that awards over 50% of coveted graduate admissions to a single ethnic group that represents less than 2% of the population is anti-semitic in admissions policy is absurd. The converse is blatantly true. Harvard University, for example is so pro-semitic that it should be investigated for having turned Harvard into an exclusive Jewish enclave. A place where non-Jews need not apply.
The catering to African-American applicants, if anything, is a smoke screen to cover up Harvard's true intentions. Which is to favor Jewish students as well as Jewish faculty and administrators no matter how disproportionate the dominance of Jewish applicants becomes.
dpci, in the 1970s Harvard was about 25% jewish (50 years ago). The estimates today are at 7 to 9%. Some say as low as 5%. Yes, this is still higher than jewish representation, just like East Asians. Using this falsehood to weave an entire narrative is silly.
I can only wonder the motives
behind your idiocy and what other things comes out of your mouth.
Approximately 52.5% of Harvard's graduate students identify as Jewish, according to Hillel International. This represents about 2,500 students. In contrast, roughly 9.8% of undergraduate students at Harvard are Jewish.
I didn't know that. That's very interesting. It also shows that Jews understand your undergrad is not that important, it's your grad school--law, medicine, business--that makes the grad. Good point.
The actual % of Jewish undergraduate students is much higher than 9.8%.
There are a number of reasons for the under-reporting. For example, many Jewish students identify as non-religious. That places them in the demographic category of 'white' i.e non-Jewish for statistical purposes. Groups such as 'Asian' and 'white' receive lower admissions to Harvard and other top Universities. The U.S. Supreme Court identified Harvard admissions practices as racial discrimination. Which it quite plainly is.
Ron Unz, who is himself Jewish did an exhaustive study which is likely the most definitive study on the racial and ethnic disparities at these most sought after Universities.
Yes, I read (listen) to Unz every week, in fact I think you just cut and pasted his argument about Jews checking (non-religious). It’s an interesting point.
Did learn about the practice of Jewish students identifying as 'white' to distort the statistics from Ron Unz's extensive research.
'Affirmative Action' at Harvard and most Universities has resulted in fewer 'white' (Christian) students being admitted while the number of Jewish students admitted has remained steady or increased.
Affirmative Action has served as a tool of the war on white Christians.
The objective is to lessen the influence and political power of white Christians and increase the power and influence of Jewish people.
Hey dcpi, no wonder you spout off like a crazy man. You follow Unz. I read your article. He claims there is ZERO bias against Asians and it's all a jewish conspiracy from those evil ADL folks. Hogwash. But you assure us readers that Hillel, who you falsely quoted at 50% (to make your argument) was your reasoning. You weave and bob don't you. Then when you hear, oh, it is 10.8%, you say it is undercounted. So you get your data from a crack pot and then bring it here and report it as fact. Your stats are off. Stop listening to crack pots. Because when you do, you become a crack pot. Shame on you.
Hillel International, a Jewish academic organization with a large membership at Harvard until today had proudly listed the Jewish representation at Harvard as 52.5%. That figure was now scrubbed from the internet, as of today. The figure was posted on Harvard Hillel's own website, also until today. The figure has been revised downward to the 10% range, similar to the reported undergraduate rate. I came across the graduate school number when researching the outright domination of the Biden Regime cabinet and top jobs with Jewish Harvard affiliates. Google AI reported the 52.5% number from Hillel for months until today when it revised the number downward. It no longer references Hillel and reports the number as 10.5%.
I posted the 52% figure as a reply to a post by Charles Murray, author of the Bell Curve. My post received the usual hate postings and over 100 likes. Charles Murray has since blocked me from his account. Preventing me from responding to any further comments.
Murray's post was:
'BREAKING: Not a single solitary incoming freshman self-identified as White in the Harvard Class of 2028. Or maybe I'm missing something.'
As Ron Unz discovered, it is easy for Jewish students to hide their ethnicity by claiming to be atheist or non-religious. After that, they are classified by default as 'white.' It is a technique that has been used to conceal the dominance of Jewish students in Harvard admissions.
Many people point out that the average IQ of ashkenazi Jews is above average. But as the Supreme Court case showed, that would not explain the limited admissions of Asian students to Harvard who likewise score above average IQ statistics.
When a group of fewer than 2% receives over 50% of graduate admissions and undergraduate estimates of 25-30%, it is clear that the Harvard admissions system has been gamed by the 2%. Then those graduates go on to the top jobs in government and industry. It is a racket.
Affirmative Action at Harvard increased the number of black students almost exclusively through a corresponding reduction in the number of white Christian students. While disproportionately high Jewish student admissions increased or remained the same. The fix was in. And it remains that way despite the Supreme Court decision outlawing race as an admissions consideration.
As for Charles Murray, he seems willing to be smeared as a racist but appears to avoid the risk of being smeared as an anti-semite at all costs.
There you go again. So you were wrong the first time, and also this second time. 10.8% of the grad students are jewish. According to Hillel. Do you not know how to use ChatGPT? Or are you dyslexic? Ya know, before you spout off like a half baked fool, drawing very hateful conclusions, perhaps you should get your facts straight. And what is this obsession you have with jewish people? You got a problem if Asians, or Jews, or Lebanese, or some other group is over-represented in one area and less in another? Ready to kick Blacks out of high paying sales jobs? Heard they are over-represented! Ready to kick Northern Scotts out of the hospital field? They practically created Hospitals. Get more literate pal. Try reading Thomas Sowell, if you like race and stats and don't mind reading a book by a black author. You'll learn a thing or two about race. Jeez.
'Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.'
John Adams.
When struggling to accept reality, counseling may help.
Man, this was FUNNY! It reminds me of P.J. O'Rourke, back when he was funny (RIP). I just love the insouciance of it all (Yes, Ann, I already knew the word . . . but I did have to look up the spelling).
Anyway, it just made me laugh. And it's a big win for us. Thank you Ann.
The thing that's not merit-based right now is BEING A UNIVERSITY. They get huge taxpayer subsidy, which means they can deliver terrible ROI to students and still thrive.
You'll never fix this any other way than by ending government subsidies for universities regardless of their practices.
Excellent, Ann. A perfect example of why, after reading the Times for fifty years, I no longer read it AT ALL. It is one long, tedious op-ed piece after the other. Journalism, Ha!
You need to keep up, Ann. Black Americans are not getting commercials, acting jobs, professorships. "minority grants" or ADMISSION INTO COLLEGE as much as AFRICANS, but MOSTLY Latinos, Indians, Muslims and Chinese. It is cowardly to emphasize BLACK whenever whites are not given a fair shake or treated unfairly. BLACK AMERICANS are NOT getting anything. Although USED as the face of DEI and affirmative action, WHITE WOMEN get those jobs and opportunities more than anyone else. Also, I worked part-time in a university admissions office and it seems that when they do choose a Black AMERICAN, they DELIBERATELY choose Black Americans who will not make it when the applicants include those who can.
Please do this more often Ann! Besides being wildly entertaining, this gives me my Coulter fix in-between columns. And it's the only way I'll ever read $#!& like the NYT. 🧻
Thank you, thank you for this important education follow up Ann. I will re-read the content again. (In the interest of complete comprehension.) Paragraph 27 Civil Liberties (Bondi/Civil Liberties) is number one in my mind. I “get it” the part about life not being fair and all but somewhere there is a quiet kid who has struggled through the systemic rat hole of the educational system finally feeling like he or she matters. I commend the administration for tackling this difficult problem. The results they find from their digging should prove to be sobering.
I say just pull all the Federal funding at let them figure it out for themselves. Where in the U.S. Constitution does it say anything about funding higher education? We are 36 Trillion in the hole and Harvard is sitting on 50 Billion endowment cash. Let the alumni like Adam Schiff and Obama give a donation to indoctrinate the ignorant socialist. A degree from these places aren't worth the paper they're written on. Let the free market of ideas and worth of a degree be decided by those that PAY for the degree and not subsidized by the 60% without a degree. Just get out of the way and LET THEM FAIL !!! It is fun reading Ann and Taibbi scorch the Gray Lady and put her in her place. Winning !! Thanks Ann.
You are singing my song! If Hillsdale College can survive with ZERO federal dollars surely Columbus, Brown, Princeton, Harvard, state universities & colleges can survive also. If not ….so be it. (same for Planned “un”Parenthood, NPR, PBS, etc.
Out Founding Fathers would be appalled.
YOU JUST CAN'T BRING YOURSELVES TO MENTION WHITE PEOPLE, CAN YOU NYT?
Yes, Ann, they couldn’t.
Just like all those so-called conservatives who spent years moaning about how university affirmative action admissions policies were creating “Mismatch” that really hurt BLACKS.
And just like the conservatives who brought the suit against Harvard because the university was short-changing ASIANS in admissions.
There are a lot of people who still can’t stand up for Whites — especially among Whites themselves.
Get over it, folks.
Don't forget "gap year" students! So-called gap year students typically wait a year before entering college that way their test scores are not included in the entry class which likely will bring down the overall averages. Malia Obama entered Harvard College after a gap year.
Interesting point.
Even my Parakeet is tired of the NYTs.
Can't use race in housing decisions? Does that mean they can't have black dormitories?
I think that would be fair. What is not discussed is the ability to use economic disparities. I see no issues with providing compensation and free college to those from poor families. This will skew black but, more importantly, help the poor. And it is not racism. Why the libs never pushed for helping poor people and opted, instead, of being racist was and is so stupid.
More than 50% of Harvard graduate students are Jewish. This may help to explain how the Biden Regime ended up with so many Jewish Harvard graduates in the cabinet and other powerful, highly paid government posts.
The idea that any University that awards over 50% of coveted graduate admissions to a single ethnic group that represents less than 2% of the population is anti-semitic in admissions policy is absurd. The converse is blatantly true. Harvard University, for example is so pro-semitic that it should be investigated for having turned Harvard into an exclusive Jewish enclave. A place where non-Jews need not apply.
The catering to African-American applicants, if anything, is a smoke screen to cover up Harvard's true intentions. Which is to favor Jewish students as well as Jewish faculty and administrators no matter how disproportionate the dominance of Jewish applicants becomes.
dpci, in the 1970s Harvard was about 25% jewish (50 years ago). The estimates today are at 7 to 9%. Some say as low as 5%. Yes, this is still higher than jewish representation, just like East Asians. Using this falsehood to weave an entire narrative is silly.
I can only wonder the motives
behind your idiocy and what other things comes out of your mouth.
Approximately 52.5% of Harvard's graduate students identify as Jewish, according to Hillel International. This represents about 2,500 students. In contrast, roughly 9.8% of undergraduate students at Harvard are Jewish.
I didn't know that. That's very interesting. It also shows that Jews understand your undergrad is not that important, it's your grad school--law, medicine, business--that makes the grad. Good point.
The actual % of Jewish undergraduate students is much higher than 9.8%.
There are a number of reasons for the under-reporting. For example, many Jewish students identify as non-religious. That places them in the demographic category of 'white' i.e non-Jewish for statistical purposes. Groups such as 'Asian' and 'white' receive lower admissions to Harvard and other top Universities. The U.S. Supreme Court identified Harvard admissions practices as racial discrimination. Which it quite plainly is.
Ron Unz, who is himself Jewish did an exhaustive study which is likely the most definitive study on the racial and ethnic disparities at these most sought after Universities.
https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/
Yes, I read (listen) to Unz every week, in fact I think you just cut and pasted his argument about Jews checking (non-religious). It’s an interesting point.
Do write my own words.
Did learn about the practice of Jewish students identifying as 'white' to distort the statistics from Ron Unz's extensive research.
'Affirmative Action' at Harvard and most Universities has resulted in fewer 'white' (Christian) students being admitted while the number of Jewish students admitted has remained steady or increased.
Affirmative Action has served as a tool of the war on white Christians.
The objective is to lessen the influence and political power of white Christians and increase the power and influence of Jewish people.
Hey dcpi, no wonder you spout off like a crazy man. You follow Unz. I read your article. He claims there is ZERO bias against Asians and it's all a jewish conspiracy from those evil ADL folks. Hogwash. But you assure us readers that Hillel, who you falsely quoted at 50% (to make your argument) was your reasoning. You weave and bob don't you. Then when you hear, oh, it is 10.8%, you say it is undercounted. So you get your data from a crack pot and then bring it here and report it as fact. Your stats are off. Stop listening to crack pots. Because when you do, you become a crack pot. Shame on you.
Hillel International, a Jewish academic organization with a large membership at Harvard until today had proudly listed the Jewish representation at Harvard as 52.5%. That figure was now scrubbed from the internet, as of today. The figure was posted on Harvard Hillel's own website, also until today. The figure has been revised downward to the 10% range, similar to the reported undergraduate rate. I came across the graduate school number when researching the outright domination of the Biden Regime cabinet and top jobs with Jewish Harvard affiliates. Google AI reported the 52.5% number from Hillel for months until today when it revised the number downward. It no longer references Hillel and reports the number as 10.5%.
I posted the 52% figure as a reply to a post by Charles Murray, author of the Bell Curve. My post received the usual hate postings and over 100 likes. Charles Murray has since blocked me from his account. Preventing me from responding to any further comments.
Murray's post was:
'BREAKING: Not a single solitary incoming freshman self-identified as White in the Harvard Class of 2028. Or maybe I'm missing something.'
As Ron Unz discovered, it is easy for Jewish students to hide their ethnicity by claiming to be atheist or non-religious. After that, they are classified by default as 'white.' It is a technique that has been used to conceal the dominance of Jewish students in Harvard admissions.
Many people point out that the average IQ of ashkenazi Jews is above average. But as the Supreme Court case showed, that would not explain the limited admissions of Asian students to Harvard who likewise score above average IQ statistics.
When a group of fewer than 2% receives over 50% of graduate admissions and undergraduate estimates of 25-30%, it is clear that the Harvard admissions system has been gamed by the 2%. Then those graduates go on to the top jobs in government and industry. It is a racket.
Affirmative Action at Harvard increased the number of black students almost exclusively through a corresponding reduction in the number of white Christian students. While disproportionately high Jewish student admissions increased or remained the same. The fix was in. And it remains that way despite the Supreme Court decision outlawing race as an admissions consideration.
As for Charles Murray, he seems willing to be smeared as a racist but appears to avoid the risk of being smeared as an anti-semite at all costs.
There you go again. So you were wrong the first time, and also this second time. 10.8% of the grad students are jewish. According to Hillel. Do you not know how to use ChatGPT? Or are you dyslexic? Ya know, before you spout off like a half baked fool, drawing very hateful conclusions, perhaps you should get your facts straight. And what is this obsession you have with jewish people? You got a problem if Asians, or Jews, or Lebanese, or some other group is over-represented in one area and less in another? Ready to kick Blacks out of high paying sales jobs? Heard they are over-represented! Ready to kick Northern Scotts out of the hospital field? They practically created Hospitals. Get more literate pal. Try reading Thomas Sowell, if you like race and stats and don't mind reading a book by a black author. You'll learn a thing or two about race. Jeez.
'Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.'
John Adams.
When struggling to accept reality, counseling may help.
Man, this was FUNNY! It reminds me of P.J. O'Rourke, back when he was funny (RIP). I just love the insouciance of it all (Yes, Ann, I already knew the word . . . but I did have to look up the spelling).
Anyway, it just made me laugh. And it's a big win for us. Thank you Ann.
The NYT wrote an entire article to prove that they (The Times) are idiots. How is this the "paper of record?"
The thing that's not merit-based right now is BEING A UNIVERSITY. They get huge taxpayer subsidy, which means they can deliver terrible ROI to students and still thrive.
You'll never fix this any other way than by ending government subsidies for universities regardless of their practices.
Excellent, Ann. A perfect example of why, after reading the Times for fifty years, I no longer read it AT ALL. It is one long, tedious op-ed piece after the other. Journalism, Ha!
You need to keep up, Ann. Black Americans are not getting commercials, acting jobs, professorships. "minority grants" or ADMISSION INTO COLLEGE as much as AFRICANS, but MOSTLY Latinos, Indians, Muslims and Chinese. It is cowardly to emphasize BLACK whenever whites are not given a fair shake or treated unfairly. BLACK AMERICANS are NOT getting anything. Although USED as the face of DEI and affirmative action, WHITE WOMEN get those jobs and opportunities more than anyone else. Also, I worked part-time in a university admissions office and it seems that when they do choose a Black AMERICAN, they DELIBERATELY choose Black Americans who will not make it when the applicants include those who can.
Please do this more often Ann! Besides being wildly entertaining, this gives me my Coulter fix in-between columns. And it's the only way I'll ever read $#!& like the NYT. 🧻
Thank you, thank you for this important education follow up Ann. I will re-read the content again. (In the interest of complete comprehension.) Paragraph 27 Civil Liberties (Bondi/Civil Liberties) is number one in my mind. I “get it” the part about life not being fair and all but somewhere there is a quiet kid who has struggled through the systemic rat hole of the educational system finally feeling like he or she matters. I commend the administration for tackling this difficult problem. The results they find from their digging should prove to be sobering.