In my dotage I can vividly remember a long recitation of the problem with Birthright Citizenship and the misreading of the 14th Amendment by none other than Rush Limbaugh. He sliced it up quite well and quoted the author of the Amendment to reiterate that the whole question dealt with the citizenship of the former slaves. What about the children born here when they were slaves, not citizens? This Amendment codified that and allowed that the children of slaves, no matter when they were born were themselves citizens with all the rights attendant thereto.
There can be no legitimate reading of this document that would grant citizenship to illegally entering aliens who happened to have a child, no matter how long they had been here unless they went through the process and became citizens before the birth of the child.
Ambassadors, visitors, work, and student visa holders whose self or spouse is pregnant and delivers a baby, that child is not considered a U.S. citizen. They are considered citizens of their native country.
My Italian born daughter has a ceremonial Italian birth certificate. She made inquiries about attaining Italian citizenship. It was explained that the certificate was not official and that she, born while I was serving in Italy, was an American Citizen, not Italian.
It's because Mexico is a mostly a dump. I say that as a NON white person but you can't say that in public because the mainstream media is controlled by TYRANNICAL Democrats!
Wise Ann is absolutely right; the Supreme Court ought to rule in favor of Trump's executive action.
Being blessed with a superior intellect, astute Ann makes an excellent point about crackpot "rights"; those should all be urgently removed especially the disparate impact monstrosity.
Will SCOTUS go wobbly? I can guarantee Amy Coney Barret will join her sisters on the left and vote to confer citizenship to anchor babies. She's a bleeding heart Catholic who think no human is illegal.
Barrett and the Chief Justice have adopted foreign born children. You would think they would be smart enough to know that there is no similarity between their kids and a baby dropped by an illegal alien. But they are not.
The anchor babies will continue....I have very little hope that what 1/2 of us see is common sense, that the amendment did not mean "just anyone that drops a baby here is a citizen". Even the stupid people of the world KNOWS what that means and take advantage of it every chance they get. Which is why the other 1/2 scream that the illegals have kids...American citizens they say...I cringe every time the liberals blab this nonsense and for the life of me I can't understand why they do it...yes I know some of them "blended" with all of these illegals and therefore think they are all just peachy keen....but I can't see the Supreme Court doing the correct thing for this country.
White liberals steal everything that was done to right the wrong of black slaves in the USA. They have taught the Muslims, the Latinos and especially people from India to be masters at the steal. I despise them.
True, the 14th amendment is narrow and applies mainly to babies born of freed black slaves and of course babies born to U.S. citizens. Most took that for granted until the era of mass illegal immigration, far left wing & anti-white political activism and bleeding heartism by our despised elites. There's now a giant intellectual framework supporting birthright citizenship for illegal aliens.
Constitutional rights have been turned on their heads thanks law schools teaching radicalism and left wing activist judges and even some weak "conservative" judges. The first and second amendment are under attack like never before. The left says that the first amendment doesn't protect hate speech, which is any speech they disagree with and the kosher right says the first doesn't protect anti-semitism. Similarly, they say the second amendment is a collective right subject to strict government oversight and doesn't confer an individual right to own firearms ignoring "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED".
At the same time it's a hallowed Constitutional right for homosexuals to marry and for women to murder their babies even post birth. There's also "right" for the violent black and brown underclass to live anywhere they want which usually means invading whitey's middle class communities via section 8 housing.
The anchor baby "right" makes perfect sense. All you have to do is ignore the "subject to the jurisdiction" verbiage. But, we all know that language in a statute or amendment is presumed to have been put there for a reason and cannot be blithely ignored. However, the Scotus justices are not supreme because they are infallible. Instead, they are infallible because they are supreme, which is to say they can (and often do) screw up and there isn't a damn thing we can do about it.
The 14th amendment was intended for children of freed SLAVES not MILLIONS of ILLEGAL aliens that Biden/Kamala let in from 170+ nations! It's just that simple. So WHY do we still have birthright citizenship??
I'm beginning to understand the left. They work through political proxy groups. Much like the regime in Tehran, they encircle their enemies and lob bombs at them, from within and from without. Everyone with a grievance is encouraged to join in the fight. The media engages in a non-stop attack on the morale and confidence of the American people. The spineless lawmakers buckle under the pressure, hoping their appeasement of the left with goodies will buy them time. All the while, the left gathers strength, and uses whatever is given to them to expand the fight.
The woke movement is first and foremost conceived as a remedy, which implies there was an injury to begin with. And in that sense, wokery is intended to be a form of social justice, payback if you will. Diversity is about punishment. If you're generally a mainstream/status-quo type of person as most are, wokeness is intend to punish you. That's why the woke are so intolerant. It's not about diversity as a social good, but rather it's about diversity as a form of revenge.
"If illegals are illegal, why are their babies citizens?"
Democrats have no answer to this question. "No BABY is illegal," they say. (Then why are they killing them before they are born? Eh- that's another discussion. Dems want babies - just not American babies. We all know this discussion hamstrings Republicans during elections.)
I am not a Constitutional expert like some here and those who can explain why the making 'Anchor Babies' citizens is wrong from a historical perspective. No one needs to be a lawyer or some other sort of scholar to understand the the question and the implication. Granting 'Anchor Babies' citizenship status, along with rewarding their illegal alien accompanying family members is wrong - it's just common sense.
Sadly, I believe Ann's right we're probably stuck the "anchor baby" issue. I still can't see how it's legal for people who came her illegally, however.
In my dotage I can vividly remember a long recitation of the problem with Birthright Citizenship and the misreading of the 14th Amendment by none other than Rush Limbaugh. He sliced it up quite well and quoted the author of the Amendment to reiterate that the whole question dealt with the citizenship of the former slaves. What about the children born here when they were slaves, not citizens? This Amendment codified that and allowed that the children of slaves, no matter when they were born were themselves citizens with all the rights attendant thereto.
There can be no legitimate reading of this document that would grant citizenship to illegally entering aliens who happened to have a child, no matter how long they had been here unless they went through the process and became citizens before the birth of the child.
Ambassadors, visitors, work, and student visa holders whose self or spouse is pregnant and delivers a baby, that child is not considered a U.S. citizen. They are considered citizens of their native country.
My Italian born daughter has a ceremonial Italian birth certificate. She made inquiries about attaining Italian citizenship. It was explained that the certificate was not official and that she, born while I was serving in Italy, was an American Citizen, not Italian.
Excellent point!
Ann writes,
"These are the facts, no matter what the women on the Supreme Court have to say."
In this case...and for all cases in the foreseeable future..., it's gonna be the girls vs the guys.
The three lesbians plus Amy Souter vs CT, Sammy, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch....
So everything will be decided by John Roberts...
We are dead...
Also, if Mexicans are such hard workers and great builders...then why isn't Mexico filled with loads of great beautiful skyscrapers??
It's because Mexico is a mostly a dump. I say that as a NON white person but you can't say that in public because the mainstream media is controlled by TYRANNICAL Democrats!
Wise Ann is absolutely right; the Supreme Court ought to rule in favor of Trump's executive action.
Being blessed with a superior intellect, astute Ann makes an excellent point about crackpot "rights"; those should all be urgently removed especially the disparate impact monstrosity.
Will SCOTUS go wobbly? I can guarantee Amy Coney Barret will join her sisters on the left and vote to confer citizenship to anchor babies. She's a bleeding heart Catholic who think no human is illegal.
Barrett and the Chief Justice have adopted foreign born children. You would think they would be smart enough to know that there is no similarity between their kids and a baby dropped by an illegal alien. But they are not.
The anchor babies will continue....I have very little hope that what 1/2 of us see is common sense, that the amendment did not mean "just anyone that drops a baby here is a citizen". Even the stupid people of the world KNOWS what that means and take advantage of it every chance they get. Which is why the other 1/2 scream that the illegals have kids...American citizens they say...I cringe every time the liberals blab this nonsense and for the life of me I can't understand why they do it...yes I know some of them "blended" with all of these illegals and therefore think they are all just peachy keen....but I can't see the Supreme Court doing the correct thing for this country.
White liberals steal everything that was done to right the wrong of black slaves in the USA. They have taught the Muslims, the Latinos and especially people from India to be masters at the steal. I despise them.
True, the 14th amendment is narrow and applies mainly to babies born of freed black slaves and of course babies born to U.S. citizens. Most took that for granted until the era of mass illegal immigration, far left wing & anti-white political activism and bleeding heartism by our despised elites. There's now a giant intellectual framework supporting birthright citizenship for illegal aliens.
Constitutional rights have been turned on their heads thanks law schools teaching radicalism and left wing activist judges and even some weak "conservative" judges. The first and second amendment are under attack like never before. The left says that the first amendment doesn't protect hate speech, which is any speech they disagree with and the kosher right says the first doesn't protect anti-semitism. Similarly, they say the second amendment is a collective right subject to strict government oversight and doesn't confer an individual right to own firearms ignoring "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED".
At the same time it's a hallowed Constitutional right for homosexuals to marry and for women to murder their babies even post birth. There's also "right" for the violent black and brown underclass to live anywhere they want which usually means invading whitey's middle class communities via section 8 housing.
Once again, here is another issue, that Congress can fix.
Insert here the sound of crickets in the Halls of Congress..........
The anchor baby "right" makes perfect sense. All you have to do is ignore the "subject to the jurisdiction" verbiage. But, we all know that language in a statute or amendment is presumed to have been put there for a reason and cannot be blithely ignored. However, the Scotus justices are not supreme because they are infallible. Instead, they are infallible because they are supreme, which is to say they can (and often do) screw up and there isn't a damn thing we can do about it.
The 14th amendment was intended for children of freed SLAVES not MILLIONS of ILLEGAL aliens that Biden/Kamala let in from 170+ nations! It's just that simple. So WHY do we still have birthright citizenship??
I'm beginning to understand the left. They work through political proxy groups. Much like the regime in Tehran, they encircle their enemies and lob bombs at them, from within and from without. Everyone with a grievance is encouraged to join in the fight. The media engages in a non-stop attack on the morale and confidence of the American people. The spineless lawmakers buckle under the pressure, hoping their appeasement of the left with goodies will buy them time. All the while, the left gathers strength, and uses whatever is given to them to expand the fight.
The woke movement is first and foremost conceived as a remedy, which implies there was an injury to begin with. And in that sense, wokery is intended to be a form of social justice, payback if you will. Diversity is about punishment. If you're generally a mainstream/status-quo type of person as most are, wokeness is intend to punish you. That's why the woke are so intolerant. It's not about diversity as a social good, but rather it's about diversity as a form of revenge.
I’ve been trying to find another country anywhere that has anchorbaby status Can’t find a one but us.
"If illegals are illegal, why are their babies citizens?"
Democrats have no answer to this question. "No BABY is illegal," they say. (Then why are they killing them before they are born? Eh- that's another discussion. Dems want babies - just not American babies. We all know this discussion hamstrings Republicans during elections.)
I am not a Constitutional expert like some here and those who can explain why the making 'Anchor Babies' citizens is wrong from a historical perspective. No one needs to be a lawyer or some other sort of scholar to understand the the question and the implication. Granting 'Anchor Babies' citizenship status, along with rewarding their illegal alien accompanying family members is wrong - it's just common sense.
Sadly, I believe Ann's right we're probably stuck the "anchor baby" issue. I still can't see how it's legal for people who came her illegally, however.